Re: Here we go again!

Tue Feb 01, 2011 8:44 pm

borynka wrote:hey, again
Hope you are right!
Cause I can clearly remember that after sending my application i decided to download it for the last time on my Desktop. And then... i noticed there were several bullets, highlighted in red, stating the things we already know: not to send any originals etc + that we have to sign the number of pages according to the numbers in the checklist... duuuuuh
I guess it will not be lethal, but at least it will be viewed as kind of "abstraction" and not paying attention to details (details marked in red! ...)
Anyway, may the power be with us and be successful in the competition

OMG I didn't see that page! Sad

It's unfair, they should have written that in the general instructions too Sad

Tue Feb 01, 2011 8:52 pm

I have also both versions on my laptop: draft one and the right one and nothing is there!

Tue Feb 01, 2011 8:52 pm

Magic wrote:I have also both versions on my laptop: draft one and the right one and nothing is there!

Me too...

Tue Feb 01, 2011 8:59 pm

Girls, I do not really want to bother you and me as well, but I am pretty sure about that one. Only seeing that red line yesterday made my day so blue.. (it was not on the application form, but on the last page where we submitted it!)
Also I've read somewhere in the forum that someone did put numbers on the pages of his documents!
Anyway, there's nothing that can be done now... In the future we MUST pay more attention!

Tue Feb 01, 2011 9:00 pm

borynka wrote:Girls, I do not really want to bother you and me as well, but I am pretty sure about that one. Only seeing that red line yesterday made my day so blue.. (it was not on the application form, but on the last page where we submitted it!)
Also I've read somewhere in the forum that someone did put numbers on the pages of his documents!
Anyway, there's nothing that can be done now... In the future we MUST pay more attention!

Given that we should have payed more attention, I find it really unfair, not having mentioned that we had to number the documents anywhere!
I've just sent an e-mail to them, in order to know more about that!

Tue Feb 01, 2011 9:02 pm

If it was so important, they would mention it here:

http://ec.europa.eu/stages/information/application_en.htm#Infotab3

Stop panic! Smile

Tue Feb 01, 2011 9:03 pm

Magic wrote:If it was so important, they would mention it here:

http://ec.europa.eu/stages/information/application_en.htm#Infotab3

Stop panic!

This is what I (politely) mentioned in my email to them in fact!

Tue Feb 01, 2011 10:01 pm

natalita wrote:I think it's mostly a tool to facilitate browsing through documents for the recruiters but since there was nothing written about not filling it in (like on a top box the first page of application where it was clearly stated), I filled it in and also put on the corresponding numbers on the copies of the documents attached (if 3 was "copies of university diploma", I put 3 on the papers connected to the diplomas and supplements etc.)

As you see, Natalite had also put numbers on the pages (she must have read it somewhere, right?!)

But let's stay positive! Smile

Please, let us know when you have an answer to your email Smile

Tue Feb 01, 2011 10:16 pm

Well...I am sure it was not mandatory.

It was written on the application form at the end.

"A translation into English or French or German has to be attached to each document not written in one of the EU official
languages. For a full explanation, see section COMPOSITION OF THE FILE under SELECTION PROCEDURE -
APPLICATION - HOW?"

and "HOW" is the section to which i sent a like above...

Tue Feb 01, 2011 10:18 pm

Yes but if you go to the section it is indiated, there is no reference!

Tue Feb 01, 2011 10:19 pm

I dont understand what do you mean...

Tue Feb 01, 2011 10:21 pm

Go to the url you posted. Isa there a reference which says to check or number?

Tue Feb 01, 2011 10:22 pm

no! that i what I am saying...

Tue Feb 01, 2011 10:23 pm

Rena, you and Magic are saying the same thing!

Tue Feb 01, 2011 10:23 pm

borynka is right - the fact I numbered the documents wasn't my own creativity... I think I saw it in the instruction that was displayed after posting the application but it was nothing like: you must do that or your application will be rejected! I perceived it more like an useful tool for the reviewers, the same way that this eligilibity checklist works. I don't think anyone's application will be rejected only because of this reason if all documents submitted are correct.

Tue Feb 01, 2011 10:26 pm

yes, it is not written! but they have to unify their versions!
now we are wondering... and probably making a mountain out of a molehill...

Tue Feb 01, 2011 10:27 pm

Laopa wrote:Rena, you and Magic are saying the same thing!

I know now. In any case, we will know tomorrow

Tue Feb 01, 2011 10:29 pm

I dont know what about you guys but I also didnt bind any of my documents...because it was written not to bind all of them so I just didn't bind any..just to be sure!

It seems now that my application form looks like a big mess... :/

Tue Feb 01, 2011 10:30 pm

Honestly, I wouldn't worry so much... Maybe it will take them two more minutes to browse through an application if the documents aren't numbered. Clearly, intelligent people work there, so they can tell which copy is an university diploma and which a copy of one's ID Wink

I would say... relax till we get to know the preselection results, there's nothing we can change now anyway Smile

Tue Feb 01, 2011 10:30 pm

Magic wrote:I dont know what about you guys but I also didnt bind any of my documents...because it was written not to bind all of them so I just didn't bind any..just to be sure!

It seems now that my application form looks like a big mess... :/

Don't worry, we weren't supposed to bind documents Smile

Tue Feb 01, 2011 10:31 pm

I clearly remembered numbering my documents according to their instruction.
However, I am sure that this is not the reason I got selected Rolling Eyes

If nothing is missing from your documents, I am sure you have nothing to worry about Smile

Good luck with your applications! Smile

Tue Feb 01, 2011 10:33 pm

Thanks Hendy! Smile

Tue Feb 01, 2011 10:34 pm

Laopa wrote:

Magic wrote:I dont know what about you guys but I also didnt bind any of my documents...because it was written not to bind all of them so I just didn't bind any..just to be sure!

It seems now that my application form looks like a big mess... :/

Don't worry, we weren't supposed to bind documents

I didn't bind either, except of them that are a lot of pages such as the CV and application. All the others are separete

Tue Feb 01, 2011 10:37 pm

I didnt bind anything and that is my point...I was thinking about binding supplement of my diploma but i decided that it is better not to..That is why I think my application looks like a mess but I am sure anyways that if the candidate is the right one, they dont look so much on the appication.

Tue Feb 01, 2011 10:38 pm

I think that there are many important factors to evaluate, and these things about the application are the last they will look at!

Tue Feb 01, 2011 10:45 pm

Yes it is very much the truth, but when it comes to 7-8000 applicants, even insignifficant ommissions might be of importance
let's hope everything else in the file is ok ;]

Tue Feb 01, 2011 10:53 pm

@ borynka: that is the reason why i didnt bind any of my documents... Smile

I wanted to avoid everythig which may cause rejection of my application Very Happy

However I think I should stop thinking about it for now. It wouldn't change anything and
with EC you never know in fact...

My friend was selected for a traineeship although he didn't have MA degree and hardly any previous work experience, no exchanges abroad...

I am sure most of you already have this Smile

Tue Feb 01, 2011 10:56 pm

Magic wrote:@ borynka: that is the reason why i didnt bind any of my documents... I wanted to avoid everythig which may cause rejection of my application

However I think I should stop thinking about it for now. It wouldn't change anything and
with EC you never know in fact...

My friend was selected for a traineeship although he didn't have MA degree and hardly any previous work experience, no exchanges abroad...

I am sure most of you already have this

I think you're right, we can't change what is done so... let's stop worrying, we'll see in May!

Tue Feb 01, 2011 10:59 pm

However it is nice to chat with you guys Smile

Maybe I will have few nice, new pen-friends, even if I am not even pre-selected Smile

Tue Feb 01, 2011 11:01 pm

Magic wrote:However it is nice to chat with you guys

Maybe I will have few nice, new pen-friends, even if I am not even pre-selected

For me too, sharing our worries it's a good thing, and I love practicing my English too Smile

Making friends from all over Europe would be awesome Smile